Legal Advice Needed

[BirdAddict]

White light has to be showing on the numberplate. Question : Does it have to cover a certain percentage of it and does it have to be visable from a determined distance ?


Also what would happen if you used these lights which don't give off white light ?

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[TazCBR1100XX]

Fuktifarno

Anyway, why not just leave the fookin standard ones on - they're legal, even if the headlamp is fookin crap (works OK in daylight though :? )

[BirdAddict]

Sorry, I should have put down that I wanted inteligent answers only... what the fook do you know fur ball ???

[TazCBR1100XX]

I know that my fookin lights are legal for one thing, and the front headlight is fookin crap for another

So you wanted an intelligent answer then - OK, just for you, here's a bit of advice..............
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Put 2 l's in intelligent so you don't wind up looking such a :knob) in future

[BirdAddict]

ok Mr INTELLIGENT but I was asking was for the rear light cluster you thick tvat, since when does your HEADLIGHT shine on your numberplate... get with the program... all those degrees don't amount to shite with you do they ?

[Simon S]

Erm....Excuse me
I dont think there is a legal requirment to say how much light is legal on a numberplate.
I think if some form of ilumination can be seen no one will take any notice of the light spread or brightness.
Anyway :gives)
It's a fooking lit for fooks sake mr police man sir

[TazCBR1100XX]

White light has to be showing on the numberplate. Question : Does it have to cover a certain percentage of it and does it have to be visable from a determined distance ?

Engerlish ain't that fookin diffikult is it :? Now who's being fookin stoopid - the fookin headlight shines it's fookin white light on the fookin number plate of the fookin vehicle which is in fookin front of the fookin with the white fookin headlight SO IT IS WHITE LIGHT and IT'S SHOWING on the numberplate AND it COVERS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE (all of it in fact), AND it's defo VISIBLE FROM A DETERMINED DISTANCE

Don't ya just love playing with words

[Gizzit]

the front headlight is fookin crap

You got fookin back "headlights" as well have ya?

[bezzer]

BA- It's got to be a "white light capable of adequately illuminating the registration plate" You can't argue about the white light but the rest is up to interpretation as to whether you are taking the piss or not. There is no requirement as to bulb wattage same as all the other lamps.

[birdcrazy]

All i want to say is: WHO GIVES A FLYING FOOK IF ITS GOOD HEADLIGHT OR NOT ON OUR `S.
The botom line is : `s want and need to be ridden,and with bright white lights or not they dont give a shite!!!!!! So lets just 4get about the whole thing fellas and concentrate on a better debate as i was just about to fall asleep BIG TIME ZZZZZZZZZZZ :?

[birdcrazy]

BA ; SINCE WHEN DO U GO OUT IN THE DARK 2 WORRY ABOUT WHITE LIGHTS ??????

[BirdAddict]

To ALL,,,(excluding Bezzer)... Who the fook was talking about HEADLIGHT... now read my lips dumb asshole s ... the numberplate is on the back of the bike not the front, so we are talking about the rear light cluster not the fooking front headlight... how hard is it for you guys.?????
all I was asking was for the legal requirement for the amount of white light from the rear cluster that needs to show on the numberplate which is on the back of the bike under the rear light cluster which lets white light shine onto the said numberplate... confused ?????????????????????????? stupid twats ... even Homer could get it... DOH

[Gizzit]

all I could find out is as follows mate:

"As far as the law is concerned, the normal requirements for lighting (in Britain) are that there should be two bright white front lights, two red tail lights, two red stop lights (if fitted - originally or later), a number plate light, and some form of indicator system (two arm-type semaphores or four flashing orange lights - again, if fitted as originally or later). All cars must have two rear red reflectors fitted, even if not supplied originally. There are some exemptions to this list, albeit for the earlier cars. If your car was manufactured prior to 31st January 1931, you do not have to have two rear side lights. M.G.s, even from the outset, were always fitted with a complete compliment of lights, except for directional indicators."

It is for cars (obviously) but I guess the same applies for number plates regardless of vehicle type, ie, they must have a light. It dont say how bright

[jonah]

NOW, NOW, GUYS LET US HAVE PEACE IN THE RANKS

[Hawk]

BA, can't you gaffer tape a torch onto the back of your seat so that it points down to your number plate??


This was a funny thread.

[Bristle Hound]

So than to Bez for the only sensible answer
My understanding of the law is that the number plate has to be illuminated by a white light - THATS ALL !
FFS does it matter as long as u have the no. plate illuminated

[BirdAddict]

UPDATE: spoke to the guy at the MOT centre and he said that there is no rules other than the numberplate has to be illuminated so its recognisable , There is nothing to say what colour light and for MOT purposes even red light would do as would any other colour.

[bezzer]

BA it does say "white light" in the Vehicle Lighting Regs your MOT man is wrong. There are the other parts of the Regs to also consider IE not showing other than a red light to the rear with the exceptions eg amber indicators, white reversing light etc AND white rear registration plate illumination.

[birdcrazy]

TYPICAL BA
His MOT guy is WELL DODGY !!!!!! I know him 2
OOOOOps BA , Peter or little John told u PORKIES yet again
ANYWAY as long as there is a white ( WHITE LIGHT ) shining on the number plate ,THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT ON THE AMOUNT OF WATTAGE,so its COOL
Ride assured DUDE !!!!!!!!!!
I think i know why u r so concerned with your rear illumination U have been jumping red lights or BETTER dodging GATSOS

[birdcrazy]

YES BEEZER
I know all about those regulations as i was stopped on the M23 last July,and fined £30 cause i was showing 1 of those flashing tri-coloured(BLUE,GREEN,RED) led`s on the numberplate AS WELL as my white light
Bastids ,

[TazCBR1100XX]

I don't want to throw a spanner in the works here folks, but my pups ped has only a full red light on the back - no white at all, and it's the original Peugeot lens too - so how does that fare in the equation then :?

[rob_1961]

Well taz mate look under the red light cover and there should be a clear section built in to it to shine on the plate

[TazCBR1100XX]

Well Rob mate, being the size that I am, I have no choice but to look under the red light cover But there isn't a clear plastic bit on it at all at all at all - I looked three times

[birdcrazy]

TAZ Don`t bother looking anymore as we know why your lads ped is like that .SIMPLY because its fooking FRRRRRRRENCH thats why
Its a Peugeot ,NUFF said

[Bristle Hound]

but my pups ped has only a full red light on the back - no white at all, and it's the original Peugeot lens too - so how does that fare in the equation then :?

'Peds don't need no. plate illumination
Also u might find that the brake light is only actuated by 1 of the brake levers, not both
'Peds only need visible tread on the tyres as well
Fooked if i know why tho' :?