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Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:41 pm
by Dark Angel
After days of trying to get my R1 started between intermittent and sometimes very heavy showers, today turned out to be a belter! :cool:
So good, in fact, that I decided to break out my Honda Blackbird and take myself away for a few hours to clear my head, which was
full of, and confounded by, diagnostic tables, switch resistance checks and sensor “fail-safe actions”.

I’d had enough. dizzy So off I went. :mrgreen:

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Three hours later I was back at home with a plan. I’d decided to strip out every switch, connector and sensor underneath the R1’s seat
and clean everything – and I mean everything – that I could get my hands on. I’d done that at the front of the bike: from spark plugs to
injectors, from cylinder sensors to fuel pump, but still the little bugger wouldn’t start. I’m far from being an expert on bikes – especially
when it comes to sensors that make no sense to me but I knew, almost instinctively, that by shifting my attention I’d be moving closer to
a solution rather than away from one. So I got stuck in – again! duh

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Off with the rear cowl and I was thinking, “get everything back to “standard” in terms of cleanliness”, when I found myself staring at the
Power Commander - with “back to standard” rolling around in my head, over and over again. So I lifted the tank and disconnected the PC3,
turned on the ignition, pressed the starter and instantly the bike laughed its way into life; this, after more than a week of strip-downs, tests,
re-assemblies and failures. I’d had, as Jules said in “Pulp Fiction”, “a moment of clarity”! :mrgreen:

When I reconnected the PC3 and turned on the ignition I confirmed the problem was rooted there as the unit failed to illuminate as it should.
No lights mean “no power”! Image As added proof, the bike returned to “bitch-mode” and refused to start. Problem solved! Image

40 minutes later I was, once more, grinning like an idiot as I made my way home after a test ride. Just to make sure, on arriving home I switched
the bike off then, immediately, switched on and pressed the starter. Instant life! An hour later when the bike had cooled I tried again – with the
same instant response. Re-sult!

I bench tested the PC3 and it was as dead as a doornail, but at least now I can appreciate how these modules do make a difference to the bike’s
performance and I’ll be on the look-out for a replacement when the piggy bank’s a bit healthier. Until then, I’ll be enjoying my R1 again – at last! :rockon)

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It’s been a bit of a struggle - and some lessons are hard while I’m learning them but, on the bright side – I’ve learnt a bit about diagnostics and
testing - I’ve saved myself an absolute fortune in labour costs - and I know a shit-load more about me bike than I ever could’ve dreamed of up until now! :headbang)

OH-yeahproper biker me, I am! Image

https://youtu.be/KKSKyCNPdtU

ROCK O-rrrrrrnnnnnn! Image

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:19 pm
by jono49
Power commanders are like a placebo treatment to a hypochondriac, It's all in yer edd howdy :-P

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:51 pm
by Dark Angel
ACK-cherly there’s a real and discernible difference in the bike’s power delivery
without the power commander which, after all, is a fuel module – not a “go faster” module.

I could quite easily enter into a more technical description but, seeing as it’s you, Jono, yer can just fook off. :mrgreen:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:26 pm
by jono49
Thank you howdy :mrgreen:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:58 am
by Oldbull
Power commanders, aftermarket alarms etc etc ..more trouble than what they worth ( learnt that the hard way).

The manufacturers spend hundreds of thousands
Developing their ignition systems for us to come along
And fit 300 quids worth of made in tiwan shite into said ignition systems... Dooooh

Wanna go faster ?? Get smoother :cool: :ride)

Glad ya sorted it pal :mrgreen: :notworthy)

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:43 pm
by Dark Angel
Cheers, pal. Image

(Must say, though – it’s not like you to grumble!)

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Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:08 pm
by T.Murphy aka Tim
what a fookin great thread...illuminating and yet fookin 'ilarious. :clap:

Seriously though,its time for me to fess up...I knew it was that PC that was the problem last week onee I thought Id let you trobleshoot and therby learn a bit more about your bike. :eyebrows) Yerse. :neutral:

Glad ya sorted though, howeva, im wi' Oldbull on this. :cool:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:04 pm
by Dark Angel
T.Murphy wrote:... Id let you trobleshoot and therby learn a bit more about your bike. :eyebrows) Yer arse.

:getthis)

:mrgreen:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:21 pm
by Coggy
On the back of your Power Commander is a switch
Off / On
If you flick it to on your bike will run
































OK
Only joking
rotfl

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:35 pm
by Dark Angel
Coggy wrote:Only joking rotfl


...Yeh... :roll)

...'N' there's only you laffin... :-?


...Coont... :getthis)

:mrgreen:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:25 pm
by Oldbull
There is an internal fuse :)

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:06 am
by Dark Angel
Oldbull wrote:There is an internal fuse


Hmmm... :roll)

I've e-mailed 'em for info.

...Letsee wot thi seh... :eyebrows)

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:00 pm
by Dark Angel
....Nope - fuse story is bollox, according to the nice young lass I spoke wi' just nar. lol

Dropping it off this affy in Preston. If they can boot it up and fix it - £16.50 :clap:
If they can't boot it up - no charge. :clap: :clap: :clap:

...Gotta be worth a look, then...! :mrgreen:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:45 pm
by Dark Angel
...Nope... It's dead! :bigcry:

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:24 pm
by Coggy
Dark Angel wrote:...Nope... It's dead! :bigcry:


Pining for the Fjords more like

Re: Percy Vere-Rance

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:48 am
by Dark Angel
Coggy wrote:Pining for the Fjords more like

...Wot U on...? :roll)

...An' if yerve got any left... :-?

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...Can I 'ave sum?

:mrgreen: