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Handling

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:44 pm
by drrummer
Hey folks

I have my Bird about a year now. Due to winter we hade I have only driven it about 3 out of those months. A

Anyway. I have driven bikes for years and never felt uncomfortable on them. I am well able to drag them around country roads and bends and dont feel like they are gonna kick out or anything.

With the Bird however, I dont feel she handled corners that well. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the suspension or the air pressure in the tyres. Other than that the only thing I can think is that either the bike is just a big lump of a bike that doesnt corner as easily as the smaller bikes Ive had or Im just getting old and sensible and taking it slower.


Any ideas ?

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:22 am
by aj
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62 and i don't have a problem... mine handles perfectly....despite being a big lump :P
but then again... i'm use to it :mrgreen:

...but

i'm sure a smaller lightweight would fall in easier and feel quicker in the corners :-?

as for the rest of it...

tyre pressure should be 42psi front and back... :thumbsup)
what tyres do you have on :-?
how old in miles is your suspension unit (and front springs) :-? ..
20k is about the limit for the OE fitment... :P


regards
aj :wink)

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:19 am
by drrummer
Yeah - have 42psi in the tyres.

There is 34000 km on the clocks.

Does that mean I need to do something with the shocks ?

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:21 am
by iainm9438
yea, i agree with AJ. :shock)
i thought mine handled like a crock but as soon as i put very low milage standard rear shock in and some new fork springs, then it was ok. :thumbsup)

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:31 am
by TRIPPO
aj wrote:.

I'm an old coooooooont and i don't have a problem... mine handles perfectly....despite being a big lump :P
but then again... i'm use to it :mrgreen:
...but

i'm sure a smaller lightweight would fall in easier and feel quicker in the corners :-?

as for the rest of it...

tyre pressure should be 42psi front and back... :thumbsup)
what tyres do you have on :-?
how old in miles is your suspension unit (and front springs) :-? ..
20k is about the limit for the OE fitment... :P


regards
aj :wink)




You got foooookin Ohlins on ya tvat :mrgreen: bound to handle good :thumbsup)

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:52 am
by yorkiebiker
:thumbsup) 6mm spacer under rear shock makes all the difference to turning in ( to go the cheap route ) but very effective,also proggressive fork springs make a big difference ( drop forks by 10mm with this ).Make a big differnce to the :ride) :thumbsup)

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:23 pm
by aj
TRIPPO wrote:You got foooookin Ohlins on ya tvat :mrgreen: bound to handle good :thumbsup)



best mod i've ever done :thumbsup) ... no need for spacers (beeen there) or fork mods etc etc
all you need is 700 squid... lol

:oops)

regards :P
aj

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:39 pm
by aj
drrummer wrote:Yeah - have 42psi in the tyres.

There is 34000 km on the clocks.

Does that mean I need to do something with the shocks ?


only you will know.... easy option is to ask someone else with an xx to try it out to compare....
there is a teckknicull test with measurements zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz
but waxxie will tell you all about compression and rebound parameters... forgotten all that stuff... zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz
( he's our principal tecknonurd... zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz )

several options if they are foooked...
jaws rebuild and new springs. :-?
new OE from david silver.. and springs :P
second hand off fleebay.. :shock) risky screwy
new off fleebay 8)
k-teck, hagon, ohlins etc... with new springs.. :thumbsup)

all depends on yer budget... 8)

regards :wink)
aj

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:55 pm
by MaXX2
I'd suggest slipping a spacer in, try adjusting the damping on the rear shock (they don't automatically self-destruct at 20k miles) and, unless it's been done during servicing (1 will get you 20 it hasn't), a simple fork oil change will make a huge difference to the front.

I'd try these 'tu'penny' options first, before sending an early warning to the bank manager :wink) :mrgreen:

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:35 pm
by drrummer
Okay so. I'm confused. I need to do what - just put a spacer in the rear shock ?

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:37 pm
by aj
drrummer wrote:Okay so. I'm confused. I need to do what - just put a spacer in the rear shock ?



duh duh ..

stage 1...

see if yer shock is beyond adjustment first... if it's fooked a space will not help yer damping
if it isn't then the spacer may help you turn is quicker.. that's all it will do :P

if yer front end is sloppy get the oil changed...
(and see if the springs are fooked at the same time... if they are change them)

stage 2

if front SPRINGS are fooked put a new spring and oil in...(+ NEW seals)
if the rear unit is fooked then change it :rolleyes:

regards :thumbsup)
aj

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:06 pm
by drrummer
Okay - Im ringing the mechanic on Monday.


Thanks for the tips lads.

Re: Handling

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:56 pm
by Chrisevans41
Hi drrummer, how did it go with the mechanic?
What optuion, if any, did you opt for.
How is the xx handling now?

Cheers