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Chain adjustment

Postby Scuzz » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:12 am

Scrolled back through previous posts on this subject but couldn't find the answer I was looking for, so I apologise if this has been covered.

Following a large service I had done recently, in which I had new chain and sprockets fitted, I noticed the chain was set slacker than I would have set it and wondered what sort of free play some of you guys set their chain to.

There always seems to be conflicting opinions on this, even Haynes and the Honda manual disagree with each other.

I'm always a bit paranoid about what is best, as losing a chain could be a nightmare.

How much does the chain tighten when you are sat on Blackbird? are you better on the slacker side (as the racing boys have) and how tight or slack would it have to be to be dangerous?

I also noticed that despite being a new chain there was still one or two tighter spots.
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Postby Coggy » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:16 pm

The sticker on my swing arm says 1.25 inches maximum play
I assume this was on the bike when new, so is Honda's recommendation
I also assume that the chain shouldn't bang on the swing arm, so adjust it so it can't quite-this being approximately 1.25 inches play
I'll be interested to see if anybody else does the same...
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Postby Rolfy Dave » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:44 pm

No doubt someone cleverer than me will come along shortly, but...

The chain should be adjusted with the bike on the sidestand. The play should be aproximately 1.25", which I think is what Coggy said...

A lot of folks try to set the chain with it on the centre stand which gives a totally wrong tension on the chain... So do it as Mr. Honda says...

ON THE SIDESTAND

Hope that helps.

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Postby Griff » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:57 pm

Rolfy Dave wrote:No doubt someone cleverer than me will come along shortly, but...

ON THE SIDESTAND

Hope that helps.

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Postby MaXX2 » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:25 pm

Check it on the side stand as Rolfy says- Honda don't specify what 'too tight' is BUT, ideal is between 25mm and 35mm so less than 25mm is probly too tight. Dangerously slack is specified and it's 50mm or more free play.
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Postby Coggy » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:54 pm

Didn't realize it was done on the side stand
Probably explains why the bike keeps coming back from the bike shop with the chain too loose-I put it on the main stand...
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But there again I think I can detect vibration coming from the chain, which goes with a little adjusting
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The gear change seems better too
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Postby MaXX2 » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:19 pm

Coggy wrote:Didn't realize it was done on the side stand
Probably explains why the bike keeps coming back from the bike shop with the chain too loose-I put it on the main stand...
:oops)
But there again I think I can detect vibration coming from the chain, which goes with a little adjusting
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The gear change seems better too


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Postby barsteward » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:26 am

I usually adjust it on the centre stand, then roll it off and whilst still sat on the bike check the free play....not the most scientific but works for me.
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Postby MaXX2 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:40 pm

barsteward wrote:I usually adjust it on the centre stand, then roll it off and whilst still sat on the bike check the free play....not the most scientific but works for me.


Same method ere m8 :thumbsup)
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Postby Marathon Man » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:49 pm

MaXX2 wrote:
barsteward wrote:I usually adjust it on the centre stand, then roll it off and whilst still sat on the bike check the free play....not the most scientific but works for me.


Same method ere m8 :thumbsup)


Daft question, but how can you, when sat on the bike, check how much free play there is on your chain (without cheating and getting someone else to either sit on the bike or check the tension or sit on it and lean over onto the side stand)?

I'm pretty flexible but my arms ain't long enough to feel down that low! :P
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Postby jack » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Yer not from Toddy are you MM :wink)
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Postby barsteward » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:38 pm

Yep, I must have long arms cos I don't have a problem..... apart from making sure your well balanced. :P
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Postby aj » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:41 pm

barsteward wrote:Yep, I must have long arms cos I don't have a problem..... apart from making sure your well balanced. :P



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Postby frenchie » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:05 pm

[quote="aj"][quote="barsteward" apart from making sure your well balanced. :P

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Postby Tim » Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:48 pm

Marathon Man wrote:
MaXX2 wrote:
barsteward wrote:I usually adjust it on the centre stand, then roll it off and whilst still sat on the bike check the free play....not the most scientific but works for me.


Same method ere m8 :thumbsup)


Daft question, but how can you, when sat on the bike, check how much free play there is on your chain (without cheating and getting someone else to either sit on the bike or check the tension or sit on it and lean over onto the side stand)?

I'm pretty flexible but my arms ain't long enough to feel down that low! :P


:clap: :clap: thanks MM..I too was thinking the same...when I have tried that I tended to fall over :D :banghead)
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Re: Chain adjustment

Postby Greenbriggs9 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:50 am

You could always use a paddock stand instead of Sidestand ;-) :thumbsup)
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Re: Chain adjustment

Postby Akuji » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:07 am

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Re: Chain adjustment

Postby Coggy » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:27 am

Akuji wrote:Fook me a seven year old resurrection :shock) lol


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Re: Chain adjustment

Postby Tazcbr1100xx » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:00 pm

Have a quick peek at the 'colour' of his bike and you'll soon realise why it took so long for him to get here :D
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