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Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:26 pm
by Oldbull
I think Taffy has already told you what it is ... ignition switch ... very common fault on them ... the heat thing is a red herring...

If it was mine the first purchase Id make would be ignition switch .... just because you cannot force it to fault dosent mean its good ..

chucking good money at it without doing the most common fault first is for me, not the way to go

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:27 pm
by automatic
so if we plump for the ignition as the source of the problem I take it its just the base with the wires that replaced, thus leaving the barrel and keys

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:10 pm
by jono49
Two options.........buy an ignition switch, or Buy a Yamaha TDM900 and make your life a happy one! 8)

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:16 pm
by Dark Angel
...TI-I-I-I-I-I-IM-M-MMMMMMM !!! :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:24 pm
by automatic
jono49 wrote:Two options.........buy an ignition switch, or Buy a Yamaha TDM900 and make your life a happy one! 8)


Why in f..k would I want a Yamaha....as they say once bitten twice shy....

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:53 pm
by T.Murphy aka Tim
automatic wrote:
jono49 wrote:Two options.........buy an ignition switch, or Buy a Yamaha TDM900 and make your life a happy one! 8)


Why in f..k would I want a Yamaha....as they say once bitten twice shy....


automatic, take no notice of thr man. Hes a raving cnut of the highest order who cannot handle the power of a Blackbird, or the weight actually. Far too heavy for him to get out of ditches and stuff.

Ramo, calling Ramo or Cyclops. What was that fault you sorted the other week. ? Was it that connector block ( cant remember proper term for it) from the battery? Didnt you, after trying all sorts, take the block apart and physically clean down and shine up the spade connectors and voila, everything worked? Come on you two, wake the fook up.


:banghead)

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:24 am
by Dark Angel
T.Murphy wrote:automatic, take no notice of the man. Hes a raving cnut of the highest order who cannot handle the power of a Blackbird, or the weight actually.

Far too heavy for him to get out of ditches and stuff.


Quote o' the fookin' min-ellium, Tim-meister!

:clap: :notworthy) lol

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:56 am
by Mister Majestik
[quote="
Ramo, calling Ramo or Cyclops. What was that fault you sorted the other week. ? Was it that connector block ( cant remember proper term for it) from the battery? Didnt you, after trying all sorts, take the block apart and physically clean down and shine up the spade connectors and voila, everything worked? Come on you two, wake the fook up.
:banghead)[/quote]

Tim,

cyclops bike had different symptoms to auto's

lets stay on track eh

(I don't he needs anything else throwing in the pot, from the above posts there's lots to be checking)

coooonty

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:26 am
by automatic
ignition switch ordered....see where we go from there..

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:42 pm
by Dark Angel
Good luck, John. :thumbsup)

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:16 am
by Oldbull
Didnt Taffy have one for you try Auto, he would have sent it you sale or return for a few beers....
Possibly Grant would have one for you to try as well

What mileage has it got on did you say ??

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:52 pm
by automatic
After studying things I opted for a New one, then if all things equal if it is the problem and going on how old the bike is I should get another 13yrs out of it and if that's the case I will be an even older git then...

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:04 am
by grant57
Hi, Just seen this

I have a spare inj ECU that I no longer need

I live in Sowerby bridge, close to you

Happy to ride over and see if it fixes your problem
If it does its yours!

I dont know if it will just swap over like the carb ones or if it will need reprogramming in some way?
Does anyone know?

Thanks

Grant 07876251906 mobile

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:45 pm
by automatic
hi Grant

thanks for the kind offer, we have swapped the ecu off my bike onto a running bike and it behaved, out of interest do you have the keys that are coded to the ecu.

However the consensus in opinion that it may be the ignition switch that is the culprit, a new one arrived yesterday so just need some fine weather to strip the bike and fit the new one.

keep watching for the next riveting instalment lol

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:53 pm
by DaveCh42
Cant wait
Its better than downton Abbey this thread.

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:45 pm
by automatic
well quite a git of a job to get the bottom off the ignition switch, put the new one on fired it up, ticked over as sweet as a nut, had it running for nearly thirty minutes...thought cracked it, out it all back together I got 20yds up the road....same F......G fault, well pissed off to say the least.

I don't think the heat is anything to do with it any more...

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:07 pm
by Oldbull
Dammmm

Strange it ran for 30 mins no problem ..mite be in the right area as disturbed somthing... double check the wires to the ignition, they are prone to fail as well :(

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:19 pm
by automatic
The part of the ignition that has been replaced has new wires, these plug straight into the new wiring loom,

One thing I did find today was when you operate the front brake lever the clock light illuminates and the front sidelight comes on.. when i study the wiring loom all what's on the circuit is brake lights , hiss indicator light and side light but it disappears into the ECU...whilst I haven't been able to get the bike to cut out when I operate brake lights front and rear I wonder if it has something to do with it...I still have a strange feeling that ecu may be the culprit...but will check the cheaper options first..

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:12 pm
by barsteward
automatic wrote:The part of the ignition that has been replaced has new wires, these plug straight into the new wiring loom,

One thing I did find today was when you operate the front brake lever the clock light illuminates and the front sidelight comes on.. when i study the wiring loom all what's on the circuit is brake lights , hiss indicator light and side light but it disappears into the ECU...whilst I haven't been able to get the bike to cut out when I operate brake lights front and rear I wonder if it has something to do with it...I still have a strange feeling that ecu may be the culprit...but will check the cheaper options first..


Think Grant said he had a spare ECU why not ask him to loan it for now.....now't to lose :thumbsup)

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:59 pm
by DaveCh42
EFI have you done the loom fix thingy?

sounds like you have some wiring issues. resolve them first before you but owt new.
Really wish i could be some use to you as i do not think i am too far away
keeping my fingers crossed for you
really do hope you get it sorted

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:06 am
by Dark Angel
Check the crank sensors and get the ECU off Grant.
Just in case...
May as well - you've almost completely re-wired the fooker now!

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:10 am
by automatic
" Think Grant said he had a spare ECU why not ask him to loan it for now.....now't to lose "

The ECU needs to have the keys that are coded to it to bypass the HISS system, I posted the question but he may not have seen it, will give him a ring...

The wiring loom is brand new off the shelf from Honda, The loom fix was done on the old one and didn't resolve the issue

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:42 pm
by MaXX2
Dark Angel wrote:Check the crank sensors and get the ECU off Grant.
Just in case...
May as well - you've almost completely re-wired the fooker now!


+1

A lot of the rest of this thread is enough to make any real biker fuckin' weep :bigcry: lol

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:17 pm
by Dark Angel
MaXX2 wrote: +1 A lot of the rest of this thread is enough to make any real biker fuckin' weep


MaXX2 wrote:So then.... There's a fellow Blackbird jockey (and a determined one), who just wants the love of his life back! Is anybody there??? If so please do post up or drop Automatic a line. My little heart would burst with joy, at the thought that we still had that 'spirit' going on!!


Promote it - then piss on it! :mrgreen:

'S all your fault ya helpful, community-minded fooker... :banghead)

Re: Errrr.... HELP!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:38 pm
by automatic
crank sensor and gasket on its way,

Going to get the ecu of Grant, obtain a new key blank with chip, take old key and new key apart and swap chips over, match to the new ecu and then we will see what happens